Candidates down to 5---Johnson NOT one of them

[bigdogman.1]

what i said was i supported johnson because he was our coach, now that hes not our coach i will support the next one . I AM FOR THE KIDS OF THE BULLDOG NATION! COACHES COME AND GO OUR KIDS ARE FOREVER

you disapoint me vic.and to think i help support you in 1981.i will never give another penny to the bulldog program.my money will now go to help the tigers.and i think the baa bought those new uniforms last year and i hope they take them back.let the parents buy the uniforms

[mckgrad]

99% of the parents (both black and white) don't put any money into the program. That is part of the problem. They don't join the booster club (when it was still alive), the BAA, come to sponsor dinners, or help to raise money. But man they want everything for there kid.

[Rick Roloff]

Hey History 105. Notice How Vic Parks posts... then look at your posts... If you want to be heard and have your points considered, why don't you think them out and display them professionally like Vic Parks did. Not everyone will agree with you but at least they may try to understand your point of view. The way you post now? No one is paying a red cent of attention.

For 4 years (more than that really) I have sat in the stands and tried to tune out the horrible language and attitude of many bulldog fans as they yelled terrible things at the coaches and players from the stands. I could have tried to tell them to shut up but what good would that have done? It would have made me look just as bad as them. Through all that I always said "I don't care who the coach is, I will support them because they are the McK coach." Well, I am being called on that right now, because I couldn't hate the events of the past 2 months anymore than I do. However, when a new coach is named I will support them as I said I would. That will not be because I wanted RJ out, but because I love my bulldogs! Much more than I love most of the fans in the stands. My toddlers have learned more curse words at McK football games then they did at that curse word camp I sent them to. (NOTE: there is no curse word camp... I was making a joke)

[Joseph Smith]

I will support and buy season tickets for the bulldogs no matter who the coach is because i love the dawgs so much. Having said that im on the same page as mr. Roloff the whole way this was done just makes me shake my head. I must sit close to you Rick because i hear the same crap where im at and it wasnt just for coach Johnson but for coach Cross and i even remember Mcdanels got the same treatment. Its no secret that I didnt go to Mckinley(East Canton for anyone that cares) but ive been a pure fan for as long as i can remember, so take what i say for what its worth. I would love to say to just put this behind us and move forward but there are to many questions and to many hands in the cookie jar right now. Say we just sit back and let this slide whos to say this same thing wont happen again a few years down the line? They say if you dont learn from history you are doomed to repeat it.

[victor parks]

what we need on this message board is for people to read and fully understand what has been written! WHAT I SAID BIGDOGMAN.1 I SUPPORTED JOHNSON! WHILE HE WAS OUR COACH ..NOW THAT HE IS NO LONGER OUR COACH I GOT TO SUPPORT THE NEXT ONE SINCE IT WONT BE HIM! DUH! IM FOR WHOEVER IS IN THE HEAD COACHING POSITION! IM FOR THE KIDS AND APPARENTLY YOUR NOT BECAUSE YOUR MONEY IS GOING TO THE TIGERS! HOW CAN YOU BE A TRUE BULLDOG WITH THAT STATEMENT!!!!!!!!?.....AND TO YOU OLINE, YOU NEED TO COMPREHEND MY WORDS AS WELL! I SAID THE *** ! WAS AND ARE A GROUP OF PEOPLE BANDED TOGETHER TO STICK UP FOR THEIR CHILD AND THEY ARE THE ONES WHO FELT WRONGED BY WHATEVER STAFF MEMBER...MY ALLEGATIONS ARE NOT BASELESS THEY ARE FACTUAL JUST ASK ANY ONE OF THOSE PARENTS BUT YOU DONT HAVE TO BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN POSTED ON HERE SEVERAL TIMES! AND BY THE WAY WHAT IS YOUR NAME SINCE YOU KNOW WHO I'AM? STAND BEHIND YOUR STRONG WORDS SINCE I AGGRAVATE YOU

[victor parks]

AND TO HEAR ABOUT ALLEGATIONS OF COACHES DOING WRONG IS ONE THING BUT TO EXPERIENCE THEM FIRST HAND IS ANOTHER, ASK THE *** PERSONALLY HOW THEY WERE WRONGED THEY SPEAK FROM FACTS NOT ALLEGATIONS!....I GO STRAIGHT TO THE SOURCE AND IM ONE OF THEM NOW, ILL TELL YOU MY STORY OR ONE OF MY STORIES......MY SON IS SKYLER PARKS #54 OF COURSE YOU KNOW WHO HE IS....1ST TEAM EVERYTHING 2 YRS IN A ROW AND A 3YR STARTER , TEAM CAPTAIN, HE WAS SELECTED TO REPRESENT THE STATE OF OHIO IN THE DOWN UNDERBOWL (IN AUSTRALIA) ( I GOT THE PROOF FOR EVERYTHING)......WHY DO MY WIFE AND I GOT TO PAY FOR HIM TO GO TO COLLEGE? HE WAS'NT GOOD ENOUGH TO GET A FULL RIDE SCHOLARSHIP? NOOOO YEA RIGHT!.... WAS HE SMART ENOUGH TO GET IN TO SCHOOL ? HE WAS ACCEPTED BY EVERY COLLEGE HE APPLIED TO ( 3.0 - 3.4 GPA) CUMULATIVE...20 AND A 22 ON THE ACT TEST.... CAN'T BE THAT EITHER! SO WHY DID MALONE AND WALSH COLLEGE ACADEMIC ADVISORES CALL ME PERSONALLY AND TELL ME THAT THE REASON THEY DID NOT RECRUIT SKYLER WAS THAT THEY WERE TOLD, BY A COACH, (THEY DIDNT TELL ME WHICH ONE) THAT SKYLER DIDNT SCORE HIGH ENOUGH TO GET INTO THEIR SCHOOL!...JLP YOU ASKED FOR AN EXAMPLE OF A WRONG DOING, HERE IS MINE AND IF YOU NOTICED I NEVER SPOKE OF ANYBODY ELSES CAUSE I CANT PROVE THEIRS BUT I CAN PROVE MINE...... SO (OLINE) ALLEGATIONS NOW BECOME FACTS COME SEE ME OR CALL ME SO YOU WILL NO LONGER BE AGGRAVATED 3304519203 IM STILL A GREAT GUY BUT I HAVE MORE STORIES OF FACT I CAN PROVE IF YOU HAVE THE OPEN MINDEDNESS TO BELIEVE

[victor parks]

I DONT NAME NAMES SO PLEASE DONT EITHER OF KIDS OR PARENTS, AS FAR AS THE QB POSITION OR ANY OTHER POSITION, YES IT IS A COACHES DECISION TO PUT WHOEVER THEY FEEL IS THE BEST AT THAT POSITION (IF THEY WANT TO WIN ), BUT AT LEAST HAVE A TRYOUT FOR IT! GIVE SOMEBODY A CHANCE TO WIN THAT POSITION THRU HARD WORK AND EFFORT NOT BY MONEY OR RELATION TO THE KID....HEALTHY COMPETITION PROMOTES A WINNING ATTITUDE AMONGST YOUR PEERS AND THROUGH OUT THE TEAM.. AND IF THE COMPETITION WAS MADE PUBLIC VIA CAMPS, THE PUBLIC COULD SEE FOR THEMSELVES WHO IS THE BEST AT THAT POSITION. THEN AND ONLY THEN WILL THE COACH HAVE A LEG TO STAND ON IN HIS DECISION TO START WHOEVER WHEREVER HE WANTS! .....MEANING YOU SAW THE SAME THINGS I SAW (CAMPS) I CAN START HIM AND shut UP AND GET OF MY FIELD! THATS KEEPING IT AS REAL AS POSSIBLE

[Jay Perez]

It's not up to the public to decide who's best for which position. That's horse ****. That's why we pay a coach at all. If we never let these guys make their own decisions why have a coach at all? Let's just let the public decide which players to play and which formations to run. I can't even believe people think they have that right. It doesn't matter if you have a kid that plays or not. Coaches coach. Parents parent. Stop trying to do the other guys job.

[puppydog38]

I agree totally, you have to support these kids no matter what, it is the kids going out and giving their all every single week taking a beating on their young bodies and they are the ones who have to deal with injuries so cut them some slack, its not like they want this coach or that coach they just do what they are told and taught from whomever is coach and to say you are going to support Massillon because of this one fiasco that has been going on for years well that just shows that you are classless and not worth being a bulldog fan anyway, i understand that the way the coach was ousted was wrong but come on to say you are going to be a Massillon fan from now on and totally give up on the pups that is wrong wrong wrong man, be an adult here and find it in your heart to support these kids. so what if you dont want to give any money to the program but this kids need the support more that anything so come on and stand behind the bulldogs because they kids look up to us as adults to lead them in life

[bigdogman.1]

what we need on this message board is for people to read and fully understand what has been written! WHAT I SAID BIGDOGMAN.1 I SUPPORTED JOHNSON! WHILE HE WAS OUR COACH ..NOW THAT HE IS NO LONGER OUR COACH I GOT TO SUPPORT THE NEXT ONE SINCE IT WONT BE HIM! DUH! IM FOR WHOEVER IS IN THE HEAD COACHING POSITION! IM FOR THE KIDS AND APPARENTLY YOUR NOT BECAUSE YOUR MONEY IS GOING TO THE TIGERS! HOW CAN YOU BE A TRUE BULLDOG WITH THAT STATEMENT!!!!!!!!?.....AND TO YOU OLINE, YOU NEED TO COMPREHEND MY WORDS AS WELL! I SAID THE *** ! WAS AND ARE A GROUP OF PEOPLE BANDED TOGETHER TO STICK UP FOR THEIR CHILD AND THEY ARE THE ONES WHO FELT WRONGED BY WHATEVER STAFF MEMBER...MY ALLEGATIONS ARE NOT BASELESS THEY ARE FACTUAL JUST ASK ANY ONE OF THOSE PARENTS BUT YOU DONT HAVE TO BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN POSTED ON HERE SEVERAL TIMES! AND BY THE WAY WHAT IS YOUR NAME SINCE YOU KNOW WHO I'AM? STAND BEHIND YOUR STRONG WORDS SINCE I AGGRAVATE YOU

well vic.let me respond to your statement that i must have not been a true bulldog.it like this.if you are in a marrage for many years and you and your wife start having problems because of outside influnces and you fall out of love and end up geting a devorce and go your seperate ways.it did not mean that you were never in love.you just fell out of love.thats the way it is with me and the bulldogs.i was a supporter since 1960 but i am no longer.i cannot go to a football game and support a team whose parents and fans help destroy a good and desent man.i hope johnson files his lawsuit soon and is awarded a large sum of money by the courts for the injustice that was done to him and his family.and yes you do have a fine son.i heared him speck before city council on the behafe of coach johnson and he handled himslef well

[victor parks]

JAY PEREZ , I SEE YOUR NOT COMPREHENDING WHAT YOU'VE JUST READ, NOW THAT'S H........*, WHERE DO I SAY THE PUBLIC DECIDES WHO SHOULD START? PLEASE RE READ THEN REPOST IF ITS STILL THE SAME THEN MAYBE YOU NEED TO LEAVE THE WRITING TO WRITERS AND JUST READ....CLEARLY IT STATES ITS THE COACHES DECISION, I EVEN GAVE THE COACH SOME POWER AT THE END OF MY POST " shut UP AND GET OFF MY FIELD" ..... TO AVOID THE BICKERING THAT ENSUED AFTER THE DECISION TO START SOMEONE ELSE. I WAS OFFERING A SOLUTION TO PREVENT THIS SCENARIO THAT STARTED ALL OF THIS....I EVEN TOLD THE COACH THIS WELL BEFORE THE SEASON STARTED AT A BASKETBALL GAME, BEFORE THE KIDS SENIOR YEAR EVEN STARTED (PRIVATE CONVERSATION 45 MINUTES IN LENGTH BY COACH'S REQUEST WITH THE COACH) ILL LEAVE IT AT THAT BECAUSE IT WOULD ONLY MAKE THINGS WORSE BUT THERE ARE MANY THINGS THAT COULD BE SAID BUT LET'S MOVE FORWARD.....GO PUPS!

[Jay Perez]

JAY PEREZ , I SEE YOUR NOT COMPREHENDING WHAT YOU'VE JUST READ, NOW THAT'S H........*, WHERE DO I SAY THE PUBLIC DECIDES WHO SHOULD START? PLEASE RE READ THEN REPOST IF ITS STILL THE SAME THEN MAYBE YOU NEED TO LEAVE THE WRITING TO WRITERS AND JUST READ....CLEARLY IT STATES ITS THE COACHES DECISION, I EVEN GAVE THE COACH SOME POWER AT THE END OF MY POST " shut UP AND GET OFF MY FIELD" ..... TO AVOID THE BICKERING THAT ENSUED AFTER THE DECISION TO START SOMEONE ELSE. I WAS OFFERING A SOLUTION TO PREVENT THIS SCENARIO THAT STARTED ALL OF THIS....I EVEN TOLD THE COACH THIS WELL BEFORE THE SEASON STARTED AT A BASKETBALL GAME, BEFORE THE KIDS SENIOR YEAR EVEN STARTED (PRIVATE CONVERSATION 45 MINUTES IN LENGTH BY COACH'S REQUEST WITH THE COACH) ILL LEAVE IT AT THAT BECAUSE IT WOULD ONLY MAKE THINGS WORSE BUT THERE ARE MANY THINGS THAT COULD BE SAID BUT LET'S MOVE FORWARD.....GO PUPS!

AND IF THE COMPETITION WAS MADE PUBLIC VIA CAMPS, THE PUBLIC COULD SEE FOR THEMSELVES WHO IS THE BEST AT THAT POSITION.


Those were your words. My position is the public doesn't matter in those situations, these are coaches decisions which should be made by the coach. Who at one time used to have the authority to run the team as he saw fit. Now every parent thinks they have a say in what goes on ON THE FIELD.

[victor parks]

@ BIGDOGMAN, THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT A SPOUSE COULD PRESENT THAT TYPE OF HOSTILITY LOL, BUT THESE ARE KIDS AND WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THERE FOR THE KIDS AND THEY DID NOTHING BUT TRY TO PLAY THROUGH THIS ADVERSITY! AND BACK TO THE MARRIAGE REFERENCE IF YOU HAD KIDS WITH YOUR EX DO YOU DIVORCE THEM TOO? OR JUST THE PROBLEM? DISLIKE THE POWERS TO BE ..BUT NOT THE KIDS AND THANK YOU IM PROUD OF MY BOY

[victor parks]

@ JAY PEASE KEEP READING THE ENTIRE QUOTE THANK YOU..... NOT TRYING TO SOUND SMART BUT JUST KEEPING IT REAL AND SIMPLE

[victor parks]

@ JAY PEASE KEEP READING THE ENTIRE QUOTE THANK YOU..... NOT TRYING TO SOUND SMART BUT JUST KEEPING IT REAL AND SIMPLE

[Jay Perez]

@ JAY PEASE KEEP READING THE ENTIRE QUOTE THANK YOU..... NOT TRYING TO SOUND SMART BUT JUST KEEPING IT REAL AND SIMPLE

I'll keep it simple too, if through camps Tyler still was 2nd string, this still would of happened. I'd bet my house, car and dog on it. I've heard his mother's rants and nothing would of satisfied her. Now with this farce of a selection committee, allowing people a say that should have none only opens a can of worms going forward. Bottom line is there are always going to be parents like that and putting this community divisiveness bull on Johnson's head is wrong. I think community involvement is terrific to a point, but as we've seen here it's went beyond that point and there is no turning back now, unless a coach is appointed that has no backbone and gives into every disgruntled parent and player.

[victor parks]

jay if what your saying is true we'll never know because it didnt happen,( the camp competition) she would not have had the fuel to burn so long because everybody would've saw the same thing but we all saw the outcome of this past season's performance......and on the other points i agree whole heartedly

[browns32]

Mck93 and Browns32 lets have those real names.

nice try SRD - or steve. i'm surprised dave didn't catch onto you yet. unfortunately you never gave me yours over on the other site.

this guy is not legitimate at all. same guy from yappi with hundreds of names. nice try though once again to pull your gig.

state yours now and we'll believe you steve.

[browns32]

fyi...brown32 i have one screen name on yappi. just remember what you said about Peel Coleman and Ms Patrick. Certain ppl dont like that. I guess you message board thugging. I would "stfu" if i was you and davedawg, that wont be tolerated. hmmmm

said he was an umpire. had a wide strike zone. nothing else. all that was correct.

you were making comments about people's mothers on there - so what goes around comes around. i don't know who in the hell ms patrick even is - as i never mentioned her name in a post - so in that regard i have no idea what you are talking about.

you came on here and over there with nothing but personal insults - so it looks like you are doing the same thing you accuse everybody else of.

if you want to put a hit on me - go ahead - i don't really care.

[Jay Perez]

Post your name so we can all know who's sending threats.

[Rick Roloff]

I'm Rick Roloff. I've never attacked anyone personally. I disagree with a lot of people just like everyone else. I didn't win a state title, wasn't a star when I played and most have no idea who I am and that is fine. I think Canton City Schools is in shambles and I don't think that is because of Ron Johnson.

@ Vic Parks - I don't know your son, but I think he was a great player/kid and you have plenty to be proud of. Fair or not, I think he was listed at 6' and there are no full ride scholarships in the country for a 6' Olineman. I didn't make that rule and neither did Johnson. I'm sure where ever Skylar ends up playing he will do very well. I played and coached at Malone and they don't even give out full ride football scholarships. I spoke with a close friend who coaches at Walsh and he said Johnson sold Skylar way up and they liked him but they "went with bigger guys." I can empathize with that having been a 5'8" QB. I'm STILL paying for my college education. Full rides are few and far between, they aren't participation ribbons. I hope nothing I just said is taken as an insult or attacking you or anyone in your family, as that is not at all my intention.

[victor parks]

IF ANYTHING I POSTED TODAY OFFENDED ANYBODY I APOLOGIZE FOR THE AGGRAVATION IT CAUSED BUT I STAND BEHIND EVERYTHING I SAID!......CALL ME IF YOU NEED TO KNOW MORE @ RI RO YOU NEED TO KNOW THE TRUTH AS WELL..........THE (WHOLE) TRUTH ..... DIVISION 2 DOES NOT GIVE FULL RIDES BUT DIV 1 DOES!

[Dat Dude]

IF ANYTHING I POSTED TODAY OFFENDED ANYBODY I APOLOGIZE FOR THE AGGRAVATION IT CAUSED BUT I STAND BEHIND EVERYTHING I SAID!......CALL ME IF YOU NEED TO KNOW MORE @ RI RO YOU NEED TO KNOW THE TRUTH AS WELL..........THE (WHOLE) TRUTH ..... DIVISION 2 DOES NOT GIVE FULL RIDES BUT DIV 1 DOES!

Division II does give full rides. 36 per school to be exact. Check your facts.

[victor parks]

they divide the 36 scholarships up amongst their team. hardly anybody gets a full ride through all football money few exceptions but they make up the full ride with grants, scholarships awards and loans hardly ever all football money.....those are facts check it out ...its called packages most kids pay something

[Rick Roloff]

I thought you said earlier you were upset that malone or Walsh didnt give him a full boat. And if Malone and walsh arent giving ANY scholarship because someone is too small, than DI certainly won't either.

[victor parks]

PLEASE AND I MEAN PLEASE REREAD MY POST I NEVER SAID I WAS UPSET OVER THAT, I SAID WHY THEY DIDNT RECRUIT HIM, (BECAUSE OF WHAT A COACH TOLD THEM) AND IT DID'NT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH SIZE.....AS I SAID BEFORE AND AGAIN FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT IS BEING WRITTEN BEFORE COMMENTING ON POSTS! ...AND DID YOUR CLOSE FRIEND WHO COACHES AT MALONE TELL YOU THAT HE WAS BEING SOLD AS A CENTER? WHICH IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE LINE!........(IF HE IS TO SMALL FOR THE LINE WHY SELL HIM AS A LINEMEN?) ONLY STATING AN OPINION, DONT KNOW IF WHAT WAS SAID BY YOUR FRIEND IS TRUE BUT I KNOW WHAT HE WAS BEING SOLD AS BY THE COACH

[Rick Roloff]

Maybe it is hard for people to really comprehend your posts since they are in all caps.

As I said, I checked with a close friend at Walsh and he said no one from McK ever said a single negative thing about Skylar (or anyone else they looked at) and they liked everything about him except he was too small. His words not mine. I did look at the list of their recruiting class and no OL under 6'2 and only 1 DL at 6'1. I am not sure what other positions you would have liked him to be looked at for, but I went to the source and thats what he told me. Not trying to argue with you, I'm just trying to point out that sometimes there are reasons people don't get scholarships that aren't the coaches fault and aren't the players fault. Sometimes it just is what it is.

Have Skylar apply for the McKinley Alumni Association Scholarship. He can get an application from Mrs. Nichols in the counselors office. We have given out I believe $20,000 over the past 3 years. Applications are due by May 1st.

[Rick Roloff]

Malone
Initial Recruiting Class
Name Pos. Ht. Wt. High School Hometown
Brenson Ennis OL 6’3 300 GlenOak Canton, OH
Nemanja Stefanovic OL 6’2 275 Long Beach Poly Long Beach, CA
Austin Trouberman OL 6’4 270 Granite Hills Apple Valley, CA
Almondo Vick DL 6’2 285 Indiana State Univ. Lathrup Village, MI
Jonas Mims DL 6’3 270 Wayne Huber Heights , OH
Nicholas Coffey DE 6’2 215 Brentwood Spring Hill, TN

WALSH
Sam Dorando (OL, 6-5, 300, Green HS/Univ. of Mt. Union)
Dan Dunn (OL, 6-3, 280, Stow HS)
Drew McNicholas (OL, 6-5, 250, Coshocton HS)
Nick Nusekabel (OL, 6-2, 270, Cincinnati Elder HS)
John Eckroth (DL, 6-2, 250, Steubenville HS/West Liberty)
Derrick Everett (DL, 6-2, 275, GlenOak HS)
Aaron Perry (DE, 6-5, 230, Zanesville Bishop Rosecrans)
Eric Price (DE, 6-1, 225, Olentangy HS)

[victor parks]

in need of glasses (all caps) will have skyler sign up for the scholly , thank you for the info....he has signed with notre dame college as a dt/og a rival of both schools and im only going by what was told to me by an academic advisor. ......ability and heart (2 years all ohio despite being only 6ft speaks volumes to me ) only 13 linemen picked this year and he was one of them (all ohio)

[Rick Roloff]

A chip on his shoulder for being passed on by a couple teams, that has motivated many a great athlete! Best of luck to him at NDC. Let me know if he has any questions or issues with the application. My contact info is on the application. GO PUPS!

[just a fan]

in need of glasses (all caps) will have skyler sign up for the scholly , thank you for the info....he has signed with notre dame college as a dt/og a rival of both schools and im only going by what was told to me by an academic advisor. ......ability and heart (2 years all ohio despite being only 6ft speaks volumes to me ) only 13 linemen picked this year and he was one of them (all ohio)

Thank you so much for turning off the CAPS! I'm quoting your post, but my post is to everyone, not just you.

You said, "THE *** ! WAS AND ARE A GROUP OF PEOPLE BANDED TOGETHER TO STICK UP FOR THEIR CHILD AND THEY ARE THE ONES WHO FELT WRONGED BY WHATEVER STAFF MEMBER." I can understand parents sticking up for their kids, but given that football is a team sport, how does a coach make every parent happy? Let's say you have two parents and both of their sons are kickers and both are fighting for their son to be the starting kicker.....how is a coach supposed to be able to satisfy both parents? Parents sign a consent to allow their kids to participate in sports.....when it comes to that sport, they agree to let the coach make the decisions. So, when parents get involved, how far is too far?

The *** has been around for decades. Serveral of the members don't have children, and for some of those who do, their children are grown. So, certainly the *** doesn't exist solely to stick up for their child. That said, they aren't alone. As I've been saying for years, as long as there are different groups of parents/fans, the McKinley program is going to be the victim. The only reason to have different groups is if there is 1) significant disagreement among them, and 2) an unwillingness among the groups to address those differences. The fact that there is a ***, Booster Club, BAA, McKinley Men, etc. is evidence to me that there are significant problems in the Canton Community and getting a new coach will not in any way, shape, or form fix those problems. Question is, just how bad do things have to get before people are willing to come to the table and address the problems in a mature, respectful manner?

By the way, at the top left of your screen, click on the "view" button in your menu, scroll down to "zoom" and change your setting to 125% or 150%......it'll make the text size larger and easier to read.

[OLine]

I took the evening to think and sleep on what is being said.

"what we need on this message board is for people to read and fully understand what has been written" Vic, never said you aggravated me but the many baseless allegations do, you made a comment then backed it up - that has not consistently been the case on the message boards. And yes I have spoken with parents and members of the group that meet at a certain business and feel a certain way. Many of the things they said were not true or baseless. Working off of speculation and twisting the truth is what was said to me and I can provide examples but won't because any and all of that doesn't matter anymore, time to get ready for new coach. I have also talked with McK coaches and also area college coaches - what many believe to be the process of recruiting is not the case at all.

Vic I do not wish to argue with you or anyone for that matter.

As far as recruiting goes, Malone needs a 20 on ACT and Walsh needs an 18 that is what i found online. I am not doubting what you were told - I am doubting the "academic advisors" calling you and speaking for the football staff. I do know that level will put packages together as opposed to a "full ride" and many times a student athlete will have to pay but pending on the package the payment could be minimal. I also know that even though you state "WHY DO MY WIFE AND I GOT TO PAY FOR HIM TO GO TO COLLEGE?" that you still will not be paying full price to where your son will be playing as a package was presented to him. Join the rest of us still paying for our college education! My question for you Vic is did coach johnson aid in the recruiting process for your son to go to NDC? No matter the record, coach, super, or where - if a student athlete has the goods then the recruiters will find him and get him a deal to come to their school.

I do not provide my name for several reasons, mainly being my kids. After hearing how people spoke in the stands - which I would love to hear your explanation for their actions - including rooting for our players to get hurt and all the antics of the front row i think section 13(why is this behavior tolerated or accepted?) I do not trust adults around this situation and will not put mine at risk because of my opinions. I am not trying to offend anyone - merely trying to deal with facts and reality. Furthermore, if I choose to take my children to another school it has nothing to do with football but rather I have lost faith in the leadership(BOE) of this school district and I don't see the situation surrounding the decision making of the district to have integrity. That is solely my decision.

[victor parks]

i do not wish to argue as well oline, thank you for the dialogue. It is always refreshing to be able to converse back and forth in a rspectful way without all the bickering and name calling. My son scored a 20 the first time and a 22 the 2nd time. as far as the academic advisors calling me, that did happen, but not on behalf of the coach. It was on the behalf of trying to figure out the package deal they were trying to work out for him and they needed his test scores and transcripts (which never arrived to them) unknowingly to us 3weeks lost! i had to hand deliver them. by that time he had grew tired of waiting and signed with NDC... When Malone and Walsh got back to us with their info i told them he signed with NDC already and thats when they told me why they didnt pursue him earlier ..... I felt my son and he did also feel he was deserving of a full ride from a d1 school but none offered ...I took my son to a camp at Notre Dame College during the summer and he did a wonderfull job there, thats how he got on their radar.through numerous phone calls with the coaching staff of NDC and the finacial advisors there, we were able to come up with a package deal.......( i got a full ride) but i wanted for him to get one too because i have another child in college and it is expensive (least cost possible) lol......as far as the fans abrasive obnoxious downright ignorant behaviors at times, you would have to ask them that question. i'm respectful to all who sits around me and i try to get that same respect from them. Maybe they need God in their life bacause you know God dont like ugly. i found it disrepectful and ignorant as well! but we live in a world where that's expected just hopefully not around or to us.....great rebuttals to my posts ....... we all need to work together for a solution to these problems addressed....Go pups!!!!!!!!!!

[OLine]

I agree. Your son will be successful whether it is at D1 or D100 - the fact is he is getting to further his education and it will be a minimal financial burden to your family. I see that as a success no matter how it ended up or how you arrived to it. I am glad to hear your disdain for the behavior of certain fans. I wish the former and incoming head coach luck in their futures. I also hope the dogs win, if there is one thing i know it is kids are more resilient than adults. I hope the team comes out of this ready for battle. My main point is I hope you understand, a D1 full ride is rare, at McK there have been several making it look like it is common. You make think and your son may think he is good enough for a full ride - I just want to make the point that it is not up to a coach or father or the kid to get that done - the D1 schools do a thorough job of finding who they want to give those schollys too. D1 schools were able to see film of all McK players - how do I know this? well look at the guys this year and last year alone that were recruited - every game film they watched of other players also had everyone else on it as well. I know the big10 doesn't recruit linemen under 6'5" as a norm. I am not dogging you or him - actually NDC has really recruited this area hard and it will be interesting to see the impact of our local players on their rosters.

[canton_fan]

So the 5 candidates are now handed off to Smith for his interview. Does any one know what happens next? Does Smith make his recommendation and then takes it to the BOE or does it go back to the committee of 16?