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Candidates down to 5---Johnson NOT one of them

Postby moondog » Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:26 pm

http://fridaynightohio.com/news/mckinle ... rowed-five


Here they are: Craig Coleman, Devlin Culliver, Todd Filtz, Anthony Thornton and Tim Tyrell.
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Re: Candidates down to 5---Johnson NOT one of them

Postby Jay Perez » Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:38 pm

If Coleman gets this job I'm done with this nonsense. He's not even qualified other than having a diploma from McKinley. If this is anyone other than Filtz it's clearly as fixed as it appears.
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Re: Candidates down to 5---Johnson NOT one of them

Postby bigdogman.1 » Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:44 pm

Jay Perez wrote:If Coleman gets this job I'm done with this nonsense. He's not even qualified other than having a diploma from McKinley. If this is anyone other than Filtz it's clearly as fixed as it appears.
now that johnson knows he did not make the cut he can give lee plakas the call that hes been waiting on and file an injuction and a lawsuit and through this whole thing into limbo
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Re: Candidates down to 5---Johnson NOT one of them

Postby David Stevenson » Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:53 pm

This whole process is so far from being decided....so far!
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Re: Candidates down to 5---Johnson NOT one of them

Postby Raymo » Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:53 pm

Jay Perez wrote:If Coleman gets this job I'm done with this nonsense. He's not even qualified other than having a diploma from McKinley. If this is anyone other than Filtz it's clearly as fixed as it appears.

Fixed is not a good word,more like stupid. We will all be done if he doesn't get it from those five and WE are a lot of ticket holder's and supporter's.Wrong guy will be one and done for sure.
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Re: Candidates down to 5---Johnson NOT one of them

Postby nealcain » Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:39 pm

I eat my words, and stand corrected. I thought Johnson would make the final cut.

the way this drama is shaping up, its prob gonna be Coleman.

at this point,I guess it doesnt matter

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Postby David Stevenson » Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:50 pm

It sure is funny alright. For all the wrong reasons.
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Re: Candidates down to 5---Johnson NOT one of them

Postby browns32 » Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:56 pm

history105 wrote:I smell HISTORY :wink: Let's Go Pups :!: LMAO.


you said that under "ruff ruff" too.

history105 wrote:There's 1 Mckinley Guy left. LMAO.


one mck guy and no revenue. great combo. learn to use your brain - you know - thinking about actions and consequences before you act.
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Re: Candidates down to 5---Johnson NOT one of them

Postby just a fan » Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:04 pm

nealcain wrote:I eat my words, and stand corrected. I thought Johnson would make the final cut.

the way this drama is shaping up, its prob gonna be Coleman.

at this point,I guess it doesnt matter

:shakes head:


After the Board decided to not renew Johnson's contract but long before the position was posted, Coleman posted a comment online that it looks like he's moving to Ohio. I've known ever since then that he'd be among the final candidates and I'll be shocked if he doesn't get the job.

The *** has said over and over and over again that this is not a race issue. Well, the slate of 11, and especially the final slate of five, makes it very clear that it is a race issue and they are the ones that have the issue with race.
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Re: Candidates down to 5---Johnson NOT one of them

Postby dawgfood » Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:17 pm

ruffruff was rt. History is about to be made,btw,booster club is already broke.
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Re: Candidates down to 5---Johnson NOT one of them

Postby jlp » Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:48 pm

Looks like i'll be a Glenoak fan this Fall! "They" thought we'd stick around forever while they dictate everything...wrong!
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Re: Candidates down to 5---Johnson NOT one of them

Postby GC86 » Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:31 pm

So i guess they're going to get their wish, a black coach, no fans, and no money.
I hope it works out for them.
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Postby bigdog91 » Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:47 pm

I’m so embarrassed to be a bulldog.
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Re: Candidates down to 5---Johnson NOT one of them

Postby just a fan » Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:50 pm

dawgfood wrote:ruffruff was rt. History is about to be made,btw,booster club is already broke.


Given that you know that the Booster Club is broke, where the heck do you think the money has been coming from? Hint: not from those on a mission to make "history."

I know one thing, about a half hour ago, I booked my winter trip to Yellowstone. It's a trip that I've been wanting to take for years but never have because I kept committing the funds to the McKinley program. So, enjoy your history, but you sure as hell ain't getting my money.

I've got nothing against McKinley having a black coach when done the right way, but since the right way isn't happening, the bank is closed. Maybe the barbershop can have a bake sale.
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Re: Candidates down to 5---Johnson NOT one of them

Postby Raymo » Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:52 pm

One and done...we take a year off and have a laugh..ha,ha.
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Re: Candidates down to 5---Johnson NOT one of them

Postby canton_fan » Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:09 pm

Stokes and the committee have really put themselves in a bind and put Coleman is a very bad position before he even gets the job if he gets the job. I'm sure Coleman doesn't want to start a job with 98% of the fans against him and if I was him I sure wouldn't want history105 as one of my main supporters and that's exactly what they've done. If he's the coach good luck to him he will need it.
I hope she realizes the ramifications involved with that pick.
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Postby jlp » Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:17 pm

canton_fan wrote:Stokes and the committee have really put themselves in a bind and put Coleman is a very bad position before he even gets the job if he gets the job. I'm sure Coleman doesn't want to start a job with 98% of the fans against him and if I was him I sure wouldn't want history105 as one of my main supporters and that's exactly what they've done. If hea's the coach good luck to him he will need it.

Memo to those who think they got one in there corner. Don't be to sure. One thing I know coaches don't like to be told what to do or how to coach or what plays to call.

Exactly. All for 6k a year ! And i'm assuming he'll be judged on how he "reaches out" to the white community.?
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Postby canton_fan » Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:25 pm

jlp wrote:
canton_fan wrote:Stokes and the committee have really put themselves in a bind and put Coleman is a very bad position before he even gets the job if he gets the job. I'm sure Coleman doesn't want to start a job with 98% of the fans against him and if I was him I sure wouldn't want history105 as one of my main supporters and that's exactly what they've done. If hea's the coach good luck to him he will need it.

Memo to those who think they got one in there corner. Don't be to sure. One thing I know coaches don't like to be told what to do or how to coach or what plays to call.

Exactly. All for 6k a year ! And i'm assuming he'll be judged on how he "reaches out" to the white community.?

Sorry jlp. I edited my post before I realized you had quoted from it.
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Re: Candidates down to 5---Johnson NOT one of them

Postby pappydawg » Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:57 pm

what is the race of the other three on the list besides Filtz and Coleman?
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Postby bigdogman.1 » Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:58 pm

history105 wrote:
jlp wrote:Looks like i'll be a Glenoak fan this Fall! "They" thought we'd stick around forever while they dictate everything...wrong!


cya go to buzzard land:wink: No that statement is what "WE" been saying for 105 :mrgreen: think about it :wink: LMAO
i will be a massillon tiger fan this fall.and i cant wait untill the whipping the tigers will put on the puppies.i am also a leps fan
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Postby browns32 » Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:59 pm

history105 wrote:Booster Club is broke-You already know. we are using our brains- :mrgreen: WE running things now,We've had 105yrs to think about actions and consequences..RUFF RUFF :D IMO


known fact booster club has been broke - i was talking about the BAA and the founders club. you should pay attention instead of stating the obvious.

who is 'WE' anyway?? nice job setting yourself up for the lawsuit. you won't win that. i'll wager you on the results of that if you would like...let me know...i'll bet what you want.
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Re: Candidates down to 5---Johnson NOT one of them

Postby bigdogman.1 » Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:00 am

bigdogman.1 wrote:
history105 wrote:
jlp wrote:Looks like i'll be a Glenoak fan this Fall! "They" thought we'd stick around forever while they dictate everything...wrong!


cya go to buzzard land:wink: No that statement is what "WE" been saying for 105 :mrgreen: think about it :wink: LMAO
i will be a massillon tiger fan this fall.and i cant wait untill the whipping the tigers will put on the puppies.i am also a leps fan
i will change my screen name to bigcatman.1
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Re: Candidates down to 5---Johnson NOT one of them

Postby browns32 » Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:07 am

history105 wrote:No that statement is what "WE" been saying for 105


take a look at a yearbook and pictures from the 1920's. last i checked there were at least 7 titles before the playoff era.
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Postby MAZ » Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:43 am

If anyone is offered the job other than Filtz there needs to be an investigation. This should not even be close. I would find it difficult to believe that for the second time in a row, an on the field, state champion coach (who has applied), would been bypassed for a coach without playoff success. This would be a dark day for McKinley if it happens again. .... If you want to win hire the coach who has had the most success on the field, in the playoffs. It is as simple as playing the best players. Then there is no controversy.
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Postby jlp » Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:20 am

MAZ wrote:If anyone is offered the job other than Filtz there needs to be an investigation. This should not even be close. I would find it difficult to believe that for the second time in a row, an on the field, state champion coach (who has applied), would been bypassed for a coach without playoff success. This would be a dark day for McKinley if it happens again. .... If you want to win hire the coach who has had the most success on the field, in the playoffs. It is as simple as playing the best players. Then there is no controversy.

I agree. Being very familiar with Maple Heights myself, I can tell you Maple kids are much tougher city kids than Canton. Even being div two. But can he handle the McK fans? ?
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Postby just a fan » Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:06 am

MAZ wrote:If anyone is offered the job other than Filtz there needs to be an investigation. This should not even be close. I would find it difficult to believe that for the second time in a row, an on the field, state champion coach (who has applied), would been bypassed for a coach without playoff success. This would be a dark day for McKinley if it happens again. .... If you want to win hire the coach who has had the most success on the field, in the playoffs. It is as simple as playing the best players. Then there is no controversy.


My guess......they will offer Filtz the job, expecting that he will turn it down, and he will because the offer won't include a position in the district. That will then leave four inexperienced black coaches (to answer pappydog's question) to offer it to, and Coleman will be the coach. They've already twisted the criteria so that they can say he qualifies....

The fridaynightohio.com article says "Canton City Schools held a community meeting to find the attributes people wanted in a new coach. Those attributes were 29 pages long, and among them were head coaching experience with success, as well as varsity head coaching experience or above.

Coleman fits the criteria because he was a college coach, and Stokes-Davis said the interview committee believed coaching in college was equivalent to being a high school head coach.
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Re: Candidates down to 5---Johnson NOT one of them

Postby victor parks » Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:04 am

hello everybody, TRUE BULLDOGS and even to the fake bulldogs! I will never hide behind a screen name and i will always keep it real especially when it comes to my dogs. I wish some of you would! I've followed this web site for several years now and finally decided to join it. After reading the post on here and yappi for over a year now i felt it was time to say some things. 1st point the so called Barber Shop Gang, lets make this clear about the dreaded *** ...it's not a gang at all it is a group of concerned parents or guardians/father figures or mother figures to the athletes, who have been wronged in some way or another by the outgoing coaching staff. To be put in a situation, to where they had to stand up for their for their kids (btw not adults) because of the injustices rendered on them by the coaches, should not be criticized or scrutinized in any way. Were some of the tactics used a little much? maybe, but who would'nt go to the ends of the earth to protect THEIR CHILD!.... on the other hand, The KRJ (keep ron jon) gang! went to the lengths of starting petitions, threatning lawsuits, publishing public records (lol) and even had a march on (washington) opps i mean BOE houses. Did this go to far? maybe, but who would'nt go to any lengths to try prove their points when you feel your right. MALCOM X BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY???...However people,..THIS IS CANTON MCKINLEY! remember WHERE CHAMPIONS ARE MADE AND SUCCES IS TRADITION! ...it's not about tearing down old traditions and starting new ones! it's not about a particular head coach it's about WHO WILL BEST REPRESENT OUR RICH HISTORY AND PRESERVE OUR DIGNITY TO THE WHOLE UNITED STATES, YES THE USA, WE ARE THAT BIG ASK LAS VEGAS! There was a alot of good in Ron Johnson and it showed in the eyes of those who looked for it, however there was alot of bad in him to those who experienced it (***)...I for one, was a supporter of some of the things he did and then there were some things i did'nt like. Both of which things i expressed to him face to face (not on a message board behind a fake name). I did not like the way he was removed from his position, it was wrong. It could have been handled in a much more professional manner. (lebron James) People didnt like the way he handled his decision either but he did what he felt was best for him at that time. Does he regret his decision? maybe? only he knows, but it was his decision, live with it. Does the BOE regret their decision to not renew Ron Jon's contract? maybe? but they did what they felt was best for the Bulldog nation at that time, live with it, move on. No One but God will ever know why but who are we to question. People want to withdraw their funding for the program, switch allegiances from the dogs, boycott games, belittle kids and parents, and truthfully show their true colors because of the BOE's decision. Really, are you a true bulldog? WE ARE CANTON MCKINLEY BULLDOGS! we were them well before Ron Johnson became the head coach and we will be who we are well after whoever they hire! ...........and for those who feel they know it all about the dogs and what's been going on over the past 4 years need to ask somebody!... i've been there mtgs,practices,dinners,games,houses,school,parent,spectator,supporter, even coaching i've done it! ....I WAS A JOHNSON SUPPORTER! HE WAS WHAT WE HAD IN PLACE TO GUIDE OUR KIDS! I'M GONNA BE A .............? SUPPORTER BECAUSE THEY WILL BE WHAT WE HAVE IN PLACE TO GUIDE OUR KIDS! CMON FOLKS GROW UP AND GET BEHIND THESE KIDS BECAUSE (THEY ARE ALL WE GOT)..IN TERMS OF MCKINLEY FOOTBALL....DONT FORSAKE THEM BECAUSE THE COACH IS NOT WHO YOU WANT IT TO BE , EMBRACE THEM BECAUSE OF WHO YOU ARE AND WHO THEY BELONG TO...THE BULLDOGS NATION!!!!!! GO PUPS
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Postby Raymo » Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:18 am

We needed more member's like you on that committee,well said...let's hope for the best.
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Postby canton_fan » Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:49 am

victor parks wrote:hello everybody, TRUE BULLDOGS and even to the fake bulldogs! I will never hide behind a screen name and i will always keep it real especially when it comes to my dogs. I wish some of you would! I've followed this web site for several years now and finally decided to join it. After reading the post on here and yappi for over a year now i felt it was time to say some things. 1st point the so called Barber Shop Gang, lets make this clear about the dreaded *** ...it's not a gang at all it is a group of concerned parents or guardians/father figures or mother figures to the athletes, who have been wronged in some way or another by the outgoing coaching staff. To be put in a situation, to where they had to stand up for their for their kids (btw not adults) because of the injustices rendered on them by the coaches, should not be criticized or scrutinized in any way. Were some of the tactics used a little much? maybe, but who would'nt go to the ends of the earth to protect THEIR CHILD!.... on the other hand, The KRJ (keep ron jon) gang! went to the lengths of starting petitions, threatning lawsuits, publishing public records (lol) and even had a march on (washington) opps i mean BOE houses. Did this go to far? maybe, but who would'nt go to any lengths to try prove their points when you feel your right. MALCOM X BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY???...However people,..THIS IS CANTON MCKINLEY! remember WHERE CHAMPIONS ARE MADE AND SUCCES IS TRADITION! ...it's not about tearing down old traditions and starting new ones! it's not about a particular head coach it's about WHO WILL BEST REPRESENT OUR RICH HISTORY AND PRESERVE OUR DIGNITY TO THE WHOLE UNITED STATES, YES THE USA, WE ARE THAT BIG ASK LAS VEGAS! There was a alot of good in Ron Johnson and it showed in the eyes of those who looked for it, however there was alot of bad in him to those who experienced it (***)...I for one, was a supporter of some of the things he did and then there were some things i did'nt like. Both of which things i expressed to him face to face (not on a message board behind a fake name). I did not like the way he was removed from his position, it was wrong. It could have been handled in a much more professional manner. (lebron James) People didnt like the way he handled his decision either but he did what he felt was best for him at that time. Does he regret his decision? maybe? only he knows, but it was his decision, live with it. Does the BOE regret their decision to not renew Ron Jon's contract? maybe? but they did what they felt was best for the Bulldog nation at that time, live with it, move on. No One but God will ever know why but who are we to question. People want to withdraw their funding for the program, switch allegiances from the dogs, boycott games, belittle kids and parents, and truthfully show their true colors because of the BOE's decision. Really, are you a true bulldog? WE ARE CANTON MCKINLEY BULLDOGS! we were them well before Ron Johnson became the head coach and we will be who we are well after whoever they hire! ...........and for those who feel they know it all about the dogs and what's been going on over the past 4 years need to ask somebody!... i've been there mtgs,practices,dinners,games,houses,school,parent,spectator,supporter, even coaching i've done it! ....I WAS A JOHNSON SUPPORTER! HE WAS WHAT WE HAD IN PLACE TO GUIDE OUR KIDS! I'M GONNA BE A .............? SUPPORTER BECAUSE THEY WILL BE WHAT WE HAVE IN PLACE TO GUIDE OUR KIDS! CMON FOLKS GROW UP AND GET BEHIND THESE KIDS BECAUSE (THEY ARE ALL WE GOT)..IN TERMS OF MCKINLEY FOOTBALL....DONT FORSAKE THEM BECAUSE THE COACH IS NOT WHO YOU WANT IT TO BE , EMBRACE THEM BECAUSE OF WHO YOU ARE AND WHO THEY BELONG TO...THE BULLDOGS NATION!!!!!! GO PUPS

So what your trying to say is you supported Ron Johnson right up untill the time you didn't support him correct?
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Postby dirty dawg » Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:04 pm

Good post Mr Parks. I for one don't have to hide behind my screen name. Michael Smith, admin. of the football, lady Pups basketball, and Canton Mckinley basketball facebooks. Handled the turkeys to the needy families the first years.Attended the Walther's luncheon for a few years. I am very happy that you decided to post on here. I too supported Ron Johnson.
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Postby scot la rock » Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:17 pm

Victor Parks, great post . Stick around.
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Re: Candidates down to 5---Johnson NOT one of them

Postby jlp » Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:41 pm

Anytime you want list how the "coaching staff" did someone's "child wrong" we can't wait to hear...
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Postby OLine » Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:42 pm

baseless allegations even with you vic - the baseless allegations and false statements by many aggravates me.

"who have been wronged in some way or another by the outgoing coaching staff."

who was "wronged" by which coach or was it the whole staff? strong accusations for someone not afraid of posting a name. If a kid wants to play QB and doesn't get to then they are not "wronged". that is the decision of the coach at every school. You make it sound like the staff sat down - targeted kids - and then "wronged" them when in fact - and you vic know this - that kids were not "wronged" - rather they were cared for and many of the kids had great relationships with the coaches. But now you get on here and make a generalization about the former staff and their interaction with kids and providing no substantial evidence. That is sad when you do have great things to say that you would join in with the baseless allegations.
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Re: Candidates down to 5---Johnson NOT one of them

Postby victor parks » Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:00 pm

what i said was i supported johnson because he was our coach, now that hes not our coach i will support the next one . I AM FOR THE KIDS OF THE BULLDOG NATION! COACHES COME AND GO OUR KIDS ARE FOREVER
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Postby OLine » Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:11 pm

maybe so - I know you are a good dude but I quoted right from your post a baseless allegation you made much like edie did for the last 4 years.

I too support the kids before the school, boe, super, or coach or any of these past players that feel some sort of entitlement over everyone else just cuz they played there - they have no more insight on McK tradition than the rest of us - bogus claim. i do feel a responsibility to not add to the inaccurate information that is spewed on here. If you dont want to be questioned then dont make baseless allegations.
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